Cardfight Vanguard Online Idea

Mon 2013/01/07 17:15 JST
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Cardfight Vanguard Online Idea

Hey Bushiroad. With a member of your legal department shutting down Cardfight Capital, Vanguard's primary unofficial source for playing Vanguard online, there is a large void that needs to be filled ASAP. That is, we need an official Vanguard Online product. I don't think it's a stretch to say the top for TCG's right now, in no particular order, are Magic: The Gathering, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Pokemon and Vanguard. The first three all have official online version. However, the first two have online versions that really aren't a good model, in my opinion. This is the online age, and the fans of your game would love an online version, especially for those living in areas where they either can't get the real cards or have no place to play. While the upcoming Ride to Victory video game would help, not everyone has a 3DS, plus no English version has been announced yet.

Here's my idea. Feel free to play around with this. Any extras such as in-game avatars, in-game card sleeves, in-game mats, cut-ins, etc. would be nice, but aren't needed.

Players start with a Trial Deck. I propose Trial Decks 1-4, with only Set 1 being available to start with, with you having to gain a certain amount of "Levels" earned from cardfighting to unlock the rest. Alternatively, all Sets are released the moment they are out, and you can choose from any of the Trial Decks to start off with.

You would earn in game currency, enough to buy one pack for a win, or 1/5th the amount of a pack for a loss. Additional Trial Decks would cost about the price of 5 packs. For the impatient players, they can choose to spend real money to buy in-game packs, trial decks or if you use the level based system to unlock Sets, they can level themselves up to unlock Sets faster. Players would be able to face random opponents, or enter Events, either tournaments or gunslinger type of events, at certain times. For doing well in the Events, players could get promo cards as a reward.

This is similar to the "free-to-play" model that many MMO's are using these days. The model gets players into the game, including those curious about the game, and then they end up spending money to build their decks faster. And it can get those on the fence about playing Vanguard to try it out, get a feel for it, and then buy the real cards. I know I will still be buying the real cards, as I've done despite using Cardfight Capital frequently to play when I'm not at Locals, especially since it allowed me to play with friends in the Vanguard Online Community that I had met that don't live near me.

To me, this is the best model that keeps things fair to the consumers while it doesn't shut them out from having to choose between virtual cards or the real ones like Yugioh Online does (I'm not as familiar with Magic's online version, but I hear it's just as bad as Yugioh online).

Anyways, that's all I can do for now. I hope to see an official online product in the future that will continue to allow me to play Vanguard with my friends.

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    xeamnz in Cray (Registered on 2012/09/12)
    Consultant for the Pirates and Professors of Cray

    I personally support some kind of online version - i have bought many english vanguard cards, and use them often, but i played Cardfight capital so that i could A) try out cards only out in japanese, B) play when my local shop doesnt have tourneys, or am away from my locals, C) to play a more diverse player pool then my locals (including players i had met online).
    This kinda online version i could go for - to be honest, i just think that there should be some form of way to play this online.

    Fri 2013/01/04 14:24:25 JST (ID #12518)  Report
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    Sol in Vancouver, Canada (Registered on 2012/01/31)
    Admin of Cardfight Vanguard Wikia

    For some reason, this didn't appear as a new community post o.o.

    Mon 2013/01/07 13:38:40 JST (ID #12564)  Report
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    Andrax in Singapore (Registered on 2013/01/07)
    Mage of Eternal Flames

    Heyo. Sol actually created a game for this, so check it out so whereas you can base your game ideas from it :)

    http://crayacademy.forumotion.com/

    Mon 2013/01/07 19:47:23 JST (ID #12575)  Report
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      Andrax in Singapore (Registered on 2013/01/07)
      Mage of Eternal Flames

      RPG Styled Version
      *quote on quote*

      Mon 2013/01/07 19:59:31 JST (ID #12576)  Report
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        littleblackwing in SAO (Registered on 2013/03/20)
        Cardfighter

        I take it this is now dead? (Damn, it sounded like fun). To be honest, this is a good idea. Imma go build one on ff.net. More traffic over there.

        Sun 2013/03/24 00:24:07 JST (ID #14383)  Report
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    黒猫 in Hawaii (Registered on 2012/07/05)

    For the love of- Don't make people spend REAL money for IN-GAME cards. That money is better off spent buying real packs. Just make the online version similar to the one they shut down. Players can select from the currently available cards and build their decks. This is the best way for them to see how well their deck builds are.

    Tue 2013/01/08 17:47:04 JST (ID #12603)  Report
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    Andrax in Singapore (Registered on 2013/01/07)
    Mage of Eternal Flames

    Hey. Dude. You know League of Legends? There are 2 ways to build a deck. 1) Save Up CC and buy the cards you need OR 2)Buy the Credits to make it. Starting with a TD and some CC, and build up a trade post of sorts.

    Tue 2013/01/08 19:26:24 JST (ID #12607)  Report
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    Resdraon in new york, sucks but ok! (Registered on 2012/07/04)
    Mangaka, student, card seller http://www.youtube.com/user/resdraon?feature=mhee

    we need a duel network of cf-vanguard

    Wed 2013/01/09 15:16:58 JST (ID #12625)  Report
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    3XXXDDD in Ireland (Registered on 2011/11/09)
    Student/Tournament Organiser

    Re: Purchasing

    Trial Decks are available on account creation. Only 1 Trial Deck per account though.

    1) Players may purchase Packs in Game either by a direct method of by purchasing Vouchers at stores that sell Vanguard

    2) When Players purchase a Pack in real life, that pack comes with a code (either on the inside of the pack or as a card in the pack) and they can use this code to buy an In-Game pack or purchase Credit to later buy in-game products.

    Thu 2013/01/10 08:21:36 JST (ID #12648)  Report
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      Sol in Vancouver, Canada (Registered on 2012/01/31)
      Admin of Cardfight Vanguard Wikia

      That's basically the Pokemon online method. Which is pretty good, as it encourages people to buy real packs. Though I kind of like the idea of being able to get something out of playing it, like in game money that you can use to buy packs, etc.

      Thu 2013/01/10 08:43:57 JST (ID #12650)  Report
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        Raiyd in End of Earth, Michigan (Registered on 2013/03/09)
        Student, Card Warrior

        I find the Pokemon way clunky. Sure it works, but I actually want to use the cards I get, not buy a pack and get something awesome, then turn around and get completely different cards online.

        Sat 2013/03/09 12:14:08 JST (ID #13907)  Report
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      Resdraon in new york, sucks but ok! (Registered on 2012/07/04)
      Mangaka, student, card seller http://www.youtube.com/user/resdraon?feature=mhee

      if they had that it would probs be japanese only like with the triggers.

      Sun 2013/02/03 02:32:48 JST (ID #13124)  Report
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    kain in Inazuma, japan (Registered on 2012/07/12)
    defender

    DO what the duelnetwork guys did, make it, lol if they can do it so cna some team of CFV fans.

    Thu 2013/01/10 11:25:53 JST (ID #12660)  Report
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      Resdraon in new york, sucks but ok! (Registered on 2012/07/04)
      Mangaka, student, card seller http://www.youtube.com/user/resdraon?feature=mhee

      i don't like how in dn you get any card you want though. then you just see same decks used and unfair play for new players.

      Sun 2013/02/03 02:33:47 JST (ID #13126)  Report
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        kain in Inazuma, japan (Registered on 2012/07/12)
        defender

        Well i don't see a good system, other what pokemon does, but that sucks, idk they will think of something hopefully

        Mon 2013/02/18 09:52:21 JST (ID #13445)  Report
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    Andrax in Singapore (Registered on 2013/01/07)
    Mage of Eternal Flames

    If Bushiroad could reply to this, it would be pretty awesome.

    Mon 2013/01/21 21:14:59 JST (ID #12833)  Report
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      Amarathval (Registered on 2013/02/28)

      Yeah seriously. Ive been hooked on Vanguard but there are no shops anywhere near I am that sell Bushiroad products, and everyone around here is all fixed on Magic so that is unlikely to change. I would really like a Online version, and I am totally buying the 3DS game IF it comes out in English.

      on the topic of Online games, F2P with Micro transactions is the way to go, If you do a Online version right you'll be ranking in money, as people go "oh I just need this one thing to finish this" or "wow that's cool I want it now" and they get impatient or don't want to grind for it. they'll throw money at it.

      This is super easy to do in a card game as you can earn "points" to buy packs, which the contents of the pack are random, but you could have a shop where people could purchase a specific card or a set of packs for money, and also cosmetic options that can only be gotten with money, but if you go down this road remember one thing... NEVER release content that "must" be bought with cash that can directly effect gameplay. this will drive away customers.

      Thu 2013/02/28 19:10:57 JST (ID #13673)  Report
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    Raiyd in End of Earth, Michigan (Registered on 2013/03/09)
    Student, Card Warrior
    Sat 2013/03/09 04:54:06 JST (ID #13897)  Report
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    Gold vanguard in USA (Registered on 2013/03/25)

    We can still have our cards but the only problem is other places doesn't have any of the cards.If we do have a game we should sell it to everyone in the world who likes vanguard.Also throwing or shutting down cardfight capital isn't needed because if you have a computer you can just buy the cards in the Internet.

    Mon 2013/03/25 22:55:43 JST (ID #14398)  Report
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    JUCHEN234 (Registered on 2012/09/12)

    that Would be awesome :O

    Sat 2013/04/13 01:36:33 JST (ID #14813)  Report
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